Labeling

Posted by: danreber on 3 August 2017, 3:48 pm EST

  • Posted 3 August 2017, 3:48 pm EST

    Take a look at the below images. In the first image it is difficult to figure out what I am looking at because the values are not labeled. The 2nd image from Dynamicube is easy to read, I would prefer that the out looks like the 2nd image.



    Thanks




    2007/08/ddAnalysisLabeling.JPG
  • Replied 3 August 2017, 3:48 pm EST

    Dan,

    I've added this as a suggestion as well (show field names above row headers and column headers).

    However, let me ask you why you plan on providing your own shelves?
    1.) What is wrong with our shelves?
       a.) Is it due to the fact that they don't match your UI theme?
         - What if we enabled you to skin them or provide various style settings?
       b.) Is it due to the fact that you have certain behavior rules?
         - What if we expose settings to determine where fields can go, how they act, etc..?

    Please provide more information as to why you plan to hide our shelves...

    Thanks,
    Luc
  • Replied 3 August 2017, 3:48 pm EST

    We are converting our app to .Net and we are going to use ddAnalysis as our upgrade to our existing module that uses Dynamicube. Since there will be many changes to the app as a whole we don't want to confuse things with many more choices/options. ddAnalysis has many options and cool features that some analysts will be able to use and understand but the majority will not and they will just want MS Excel pivot tables or Dynamicube. When you give users too many options it may confuse them so I want to hide everything else besides the adding of fields to the dimension areas. As users get used to the app I will then add more until all features are exposed.



    As far is the skinning or style settings are concerned, I think that those are great effects but that is not my only UI issue. The adding of fields in each module must be consistent throughout the application and currently a sliding panel is being used to add fields, select sources, editing of properties etc. and if I use your shelves then my UI consistency is shot.



    This goes back to one of my other posts that states that ddAnalysis looks like a beta for an application and not a developers component. I want to be able to do all the adding of fields, defining the sources and everything else on the shelves, programmatically, on my own.



    So, I guess it is about how you want to market this, an application like Tableau or a developer's component that can fully utilize the great options within ddAnalysis or scale back as needed based on user needs and experience.



    And the last reason why I want to provide my own shelves is because I am a control freak :)

  • Replied 3 August 2017, 3:48 pm EST

    Dan,

    Building views programmatically (ie. adding fields to the pivotview) will definitely be supported. You will also be able to hide and show shelves programmatically. It sounds like DDAnalysis will fit your bill. :)

    Also, I want to ensure you (and everybody else) that DDAnalysis is a developers component; that is our business. This is not intended to be a beta for some other application. The tester apps that ship with the install are there as a means for us to determine exactly what developers need access to. Note that this private beta program also plays a key role in what we will be exposing in our initial release. Your feedback is crucial and extremely valuable right now.

    As for being a control freak... I fully understand and relate to this "requirement". :)

    Thanks!
    Luc
  • Replied 3 August 2017, 3:48 pm EST

    Dan,

    The value are labeled, just not where you are used to seeing them. :) For example, the color shelf hold the Freight cost, as does the label shelf. I do see that we should be placing the 'Freight' caption as the column heading since it is on the label shelf (I've added that).

    Was this all that you were reporting? I ask because the row headers don't have the field names above them, like in the DynamiCube display. I'm ok with this since the fields are on the row shelf, but it is a change in the look and feel of your standard 'pivot tables' and I'm not sure if you were referring to this as well. Let me know please...

    Thanks,
    Luc
  • Replied 3 August 2017, 3:48 pm EST

    I think that it should look like the traditional way because with the shelves showing you are wasting a lot of space so I believe that most users will hide the shelves (more that likely I will implement my own shelves and keep yours hidden) and when they are hidden there is no way of knowing what is being displayed.







  • Replied 3 August 2017, 3:48 pm EST

    Luc,



    I know that the tester app is just that, an app to test the functionality, I was speaking of the just the component. I feel that the setting of properties should be done programmatically. This may be a moot point now as I believe that the shelving functionality will be able to be done in code, is that correct?



  • Replied 3 August 2017, 3:48 pm EST

    Yes, you are correct...
    Luc  

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